Extremely uncomfortable; The Hunger Games; Module Monday
Monday, March 26th, 2012 10:59 am1. Over the weekend we did a session of the open game for D&D Basic. This was fine, aside from the fact that we have expanded to include internet meet-up people for the group. We only got one this first week that was new to our group. I am still working hard to play more female characters, so I rolled in with Tamli, the 140-year old, middle-aged, narcissistic dwarf lady. Tamli thinks she's hot shit, and believes that her favorite author should write more romance novels about badass female heroes seducing people. So, she is helpfully going on adventures of her own, and sending Way Too Much Info back to the hapless author that she so admires, trying to get said author to write about her. Cool, right? Well, I think it's cool, anyway.
The problem is, the guy we got from the internet was your standard sexist nerd-guy. Here are the two big reasons I'm not comfortable with this guy:
a. He talked, apropos of nothing, about how he was hoping to be set up with a mail-order bride from Cambodia who has a flourishing business there. In his own words, he'd prefer a NATIVE, you know, and of course even though HE lives with his parents, he'd expect her to move here. Yeah. Really. I cannot even fully articulate how utterly disgusting this racist, sexist, self-centered comment was, but it was pretty hard to sit by and keep playing the fantasy roleplaying game with him.
b. He also decided to talk incessantly about how his thief was a locksmith who specialized in undoing chastity belts for women in need. (I like Robin Hood: Men in Tights too, but I don't like hearing ANY joke repeated ad nauseum.) At one point he tried to suggest that this was how his character and my character had met, and of course, my character had graciously accepted his offer to sex her up. My answer: No. That didn't happen. At all.
Aside from the obvious fact that no woman who's been wearing a chastity belt for any length of time with a stuck lock is going to be in a condition any sane person would consider asking to have sex with (yes, chastity belts. Torture devices from the mideval era. Right, and how were these women going to the bathroom? Yes, NOW YOU GET IT.), the automatic assumption of "of course, she then wanted to have sex with me" is ridiculously condescending, arrogant, and demeaning. No! No, she wanted to PAY YOU with CURRENCY. That is the purpose of the currency system. Don't assume sexual favors unless they're offered to you! Thank you. Goodnight.
Now, anyway, the guy wasn't all bad-- we made it through the roleplaying session, and we had a pretty good time, I'd like to think-- but I would certainly not want to hang out with him outside of this occasional meeting at the game store, far away from our home.
When I talked to Danny about it, he said something I think is really illuminating here. I angrily complained that, of course, I just happened to be playing a female character, so this creep had felt no compunctions whatsoever about hitting on my character and assuming she would be totally okay with him oozing sexual innuendo at me that I did not want. Danny agreed: "You shouldn't have played a female character, not when there's a stranger there."
The fact of the matter is, that is utter nonsense. I should not HAVE to do things like play a male character to avoid being treated poorly by a fellow hobbyist. I should not HAVE to make a special request that my fellow hobbyists treat me with respect. Respect should be the default way we all treat all other human beings, regardless of their gender, race or sexual proclivities.
On the upside, I was not the only one uncomfortable with the way the guy acted, and Danny and Dustin were in agreement about probably avoiding getting to know him too well. Still, it seriously bothers me that people can even BE like this. I refuse to "just get used to it". People should seek to improve themselves, and to respect each other. We shouldn't have to get used to people being rude, or creepy, or violent towards us.
2. I want to know what people I know think of the Hunger Games movie. I basically think I want to support it on principle of it being an actual action movie about a woman lead, but I'm hesitant because I don't really like the concept very much. Any of you on the ol' list seen and liked it?
3. Tonight, the kill-Orcus module picks back up. That's potentially cool!
4. I think I want to join the SCA and learn archery? Hm. I'm just sort of thinking about this today. I would also settle for learning swordfighting.
The problem is, the guy we got from the internet was your standard sexist nerd-guy. Here are the two big reasons I'm not comfortable with this guy:
a. He talked, apropos of nothing, about how he was hoping to be set up with a mail-order bride from Cambodia who has a flourishing business there. In his own words, he'd prefer a NATIVE, you know, and of course even though HE lives with his parents, he'd expect her to move here. Yeah. Really. I cannot even fully articulate how utterly disgusting this racist, sexist, self-centered comment was, but it was pretty hard to sit by and keep playing the fantasy roleplaying game with him.
b. He also decided to talk incessantly about how his thief was a locksmith who specialized in undoing chastity belts for women in need. (I like Robin Hood: Men in Tights too, but I don't like hearing ANY joke repeated ad nauseum.) At one point he tried to suggest that this was how his character and my character had met, and of course, my character had graciously accepted his offer to sex her up. My answer: No. That didn't happen. At all.
Aside from the obvious fact that no woman who's been wearing a chastity belt for any length of time with a stuck lock is going to be in a condition any sane person would consider asking to have sex with (yes, chastity belts. Torture devices from the mideval era. Right, and how were these women going to the bathroom? Yes, NOW YOU GET IT.), the automatic assumption of "of course, she then wanted to have sex with me" is ridiculously condescending, arrogant, and demeaning. No! No, she wanted to PAY YOU with CURRENCY. That is the purpose of the currency system. Don't assume sexual favors unless they're offered to you! Thank you. Goodnight.
Now, anyway, the guy wasn't all bad-- we made it through the roleplaying session, and we had a pretty good time, I'd like to think-- but I would certainly not want to hang out with him outside of this occasional meeting at the game store, far away from our home.
When I talked to Danny about it, he said something I think is really illuminating here. I angrily complained that, of course, I just happened to be playing a female character, so this creep had felt no compunctions whatsoever about hitting on my character and assuming she would be totally okay with him oozing sexual innuendo at me that I did not want. Danny agreed: "You shouldn't have played a female character, not when there's a stranger there."
The fact of the matter is, that is utter nonsense. I should not HAVE to do things like play a male character to avoid being treated poorly by a fellow hobbyist. I should not HAVE to make a special request that my fellow hobbyists treat me with respect. Respect should be the default way we all treat all other human beings, regardless of their gender, race or sexual proclivities.
On the upside, I was not the only one uncomfortable with the way the guy acted, and Danny and Dustin were in agreement about probably avoiding getting to know him too well. Still, it seriously bothers me that people can even BE like this. I refuse to "just get used to it". People should seek to improve themselves, and to respect each other. We shouldn't have to get used to people being rude, or creepy, or violent towards us.
2. I want to know what people I know think of the Hunger Games movie. I basically think I want to support it on principle of it being an actual action movie about a woman lead, but I'm hesitant because I don't really like the concept very much. Any of you on the ol' list seen and liked it?
3. Tonight, the kill-Orcus module picks back up. That's potentially cool!
4. I think I want to join the SCA and learn archery? Hm. I'm just sort of thinking about this today. I would also settle for learning swordfighting.